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Pinewood Derby

Pinewood Derby Information

Pack 361’s Pinewood Derby Race is less than 1 month away! (February 6th)

Our pack will be following our district rules, the Talakto District, with one minor exception regarding lubricants in te Outlaw/Open category. (See links below)

Rules

Rules for Cub Scout Cars Note: Dry Lubricants Only! and BSA Official Wheels, Axle’s, etc. Only!

Rules for Outlaw Cars – (Parents, Relatives and Siblings) Note: Dry Lubricants Only! If your car wins and makes it to the District race you can use the lubricants allowed in the district race.  Outlaw cars are not restricted to the BSA Official Wheels and Axles.

The fastest car in each rank (Tiger, Wolf, Bear, Webelos, and Webelow Arrow of Light), plus the next fastest Cub Scout car in the Pack will earn a spot in the Talakto District Race.

The best looking car in each rank (Tiger, Wolf, Bear, Webelos, and Webelos Arrow of Light) and the next best looking Cub Scout car in the Pack will earn a spot in the Talakto District Looks Competition.

The top four fastest Open/Outlaw cars* will earn a spot in the District Open/Outlaw race.

*A maximum of two cars in the over 18 years old open category will be allowed to earn a spot in the District Open/Outlaw Race.

Awards

Pack 361 Cub Scout Awards:

New this year – The top award at the Pack 361 race is for the fastest average time for a Den.  For the Pack Race, all Dens will compete as a team. Each scout’s car will race and the times will be averaged together for the team trophy. The Den with the best overall result wins the Pack’s traveling team trophy.

Trophies for the Cub Scouts will be given to the fastest three cars in each rank ((Tiger, Wolf, Bear, Webelos, and Webelos Arrow of Light) and for the fastest three cars in the Pack.

Trophies will be given for the top best looking car in each rank (Tiger, Wolf, Bear, Webelos, and Webelos Arrow of Light) and the best looking car in Pack 361.

Pack 361 Open/Outlaw Awards:

The Open/Outlaw category is divided into those 18 and under and those over 18.

Certificates will be given recognizing the top three fastest cars in the under 18 category.  Over 18 you have the satisfaction of knowing you won (or lost.) :0)

Talakto District Awards:

New this year – the top award at the Talakto District race is for the fastest average time for a Pack.  For the District Race, all packs will compete as a team. Each scout’s car will race and the times will be averaged together for the team trophy. The pack with the best overall result wins the traveling team trophy.

The top 5 (Speed/Looks) in each rank (Tiger, Wolf, Bear, Webelos) will be awarded trophies.

The top 3 (Speed/Looks) in each rank (Tiger, Wolf, Bear, Webelos) will earn a spot in the Council Race.

Resources

Pinewood Derby is a good opportunity to teach your son about the physics involved in the race.  There are several excellent books on such a few are given below.  These are available at the local Scout Shop, your local bookstore, and Amazon.

Books

There are also several videos and other resources online. One of the better at explaining the physics behind the race is given below.  Please note – The presenter mentions places to buy modified wheels, polished axles, and such.  These items mentioned are illegal under the Pack and District rules. (The modifications themselves are not necessarily illegal [double check the rules first]; however, paying someone to make the modifications for you is. All modifications should be done by the Scout with the parent’s help.)

Informational Video

Pinewood Derby FAQ

  1. What are the rules for Pack 361’s Cub Scout Pinewood Derby?
    Pack 361 is following our district rules with one minor change for the Open/Outlaw category.  Links to the full set of rules are provided above.
  2. Are the car kits sold at the Scout Shop legal?
    Rule 5 in the Spirit of the Race section state: Pre-cut body kits sold by third party vendors are allowable on the condition that sufficient modifications be made to the car such that it is no longer visually identical to the original piece (modifications may include: sanding, modifying the shape, adding fender kits, etc.) The amount of modification required is up to the race judges; thus, please try to stay with the spirit of the race and have your son (with your help) make a car that is truly HIS car.
  3. Are the colored BSA certified wheels legal under our rules?
    Short answer – Yes, as long as they are BSA wheels.  The legality of the colored wheels sold at the Scout Shop, along with other outlets came into question.  I checked with the Talakto District Pinewood Derby chair and they are legal.
    However, he did mention – A word to the wise, check them carefully to make sure they didn’t get a batch of the older (and slower) wheels. The difference is that the new wheels are lighter, and the inside and outside hubs are different.
Newer Wheel Older Wheel
NewerWheels OldWheel
Note the double step down towards the axle hole on the outside of the wheel and the rounded hub on the inside. Note the single step down towards the axle hole on the outside of the wheel and the flat hub on the inside.
The older wheel weighs about a gram more; this weight along with the added friction from the flat hub make the older wheels “slower” wheels. For more information on the factors involved in the weight of the wheel please see the link above.

4. Does the car have to have four wheels?

Yes, all cars Scouts, and the Open/Outlaw cars have to have four wheels.  (Front left, front right, back left and back right.)  However, in the Scout races and Open/Outlaw races the rules do not required all four wheels to touch the track at the same time.

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